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EA Alpha 1.3 Bugs! Comments! Discussions!

Post by GreatBird » Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:12 am

Early Access ALPHA 1.3 (Rev #4681)
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BIG UPDATES

[Update] The “iDGi-1 ending tunnels” now have content! Find an iDGi-1 tunnel (there are 13 of them to be found in the current build…) and walk to the end of them to experience a taste of things to come. This also fixes a major issue where the game would appear to “hang in blackness” at the end of iDGi-1 tunnels.
[Update] The “TTCore” level has received a major art pass. A ton of new art and lighting improvements to be found throughout the environment.
[Update] Still in the experimental stage: we’ve implemented a pickup system (temporarily assigned to the 'B' key by default). Pick up any physics ready body or a prop in the world and carry it around with you! Once kinks have been worked out, this will be integrated into the context sensitive “use” button.


UPDATES

[Update] FOV slider. Accessible via the front-end, this allows you to set your Field of View from 70 to 120. 90 remains the default.
[Update] New cheats! Toggle console command “InfiniteAmmo” (UnlimitedAmmo, TIA, TUA) to give the KAR, Shotgun, and Strommon infinite ammo. Also “GiveItemEMs” (Gives 50 Engineering Materials).
[Update] Alignment for all primary "good guy" characters now change when XO-1 occurs
[Update] Slightly lowered maximum fall damage possible with fully powered shock absorbers.
[Update] Per feedback, dramatically increased the "waffle" times for when the player is out of sight of the AI. Result is the agitation/tension will increase dramatically slower for players generally staying out of sight of the AI. If you announce your intentions to talk and then stay out of sight, it will take a full hour for a squad tension meter to rise one point.
[Update] The player is now a bit more maneuverable in the water! The minimum swim speed has been increased from 0 to .2. If you want to back up or slightly adjust your position, that's now far easier.
[Update] Per feedback, we’ve restored a previously removed additional way into the “212121” area where The Voice encounter happens.
[Update] Can now scan the strangely inactive turrets in the TTCore.
[Update] The Frank McFranky encounter now ALWAYS happens when entering the final Upper WaterHub room.
[Update] Fixed automap so that it doesn't give away the secret door/wall in TTCore.
[Update] Major optimization pass performed on interior Hotel floors. Big performance gains.
[Update] Various art and lighting improvements to Hotel Lobby.
[Update] Enemy status indicators now conform to new HUD style.
[Update] All physics enabled recyclables now make simple sounds when they make physical contact with something. If a player drops a physics recyclable, it will make sounds as well.
[Update] A series of level design changes were made to the WaterHub to avoid geometric conflict with the bottom of the Lobby level.
[Update] Lobby performance improvements. Still more to come on this front (the Lobby is an insane level…). Also, known issue: you may experience “flickering on/off” of parts of the Lobby - if this occurs for you, kindly consider sending us screenshots of precisely where it happens?
[Update] Updated some of the lighting in TopExt to help navigation.
[Update] Red robots now appear quicker in the S.O.S scene, if the player is XO-1.
[Update] Red robots now always spawn in the S.O.S scene if the player is XO-1, even if the player walks away.
[Update] The secondary light of the flashlight has been buffed to 10% power instead of 5% power.
[Update] Adjusted some of the window glass and snow storm effects in the Hotel Lower rooms.
[Update] Doubled projectile movement for KAR, Strommon, and Shotgun rounds.
[Update] Modified standard talk anywhere in TopExt and the Hotel, so an NPC will no longer be able to talk to you if they haven't noticed you. They will still be alerted to your presence via sound, though.
[Update] Overhaul of the system for talking down a squad actively in combat. Players now have a chance to talk down all squads from a combat state.
[Update] Yellow transponder removed from Lobby mercs - transponder is no longer required for elevator going back up to the roof from the Lobby.
[Update] Mercs inside the hotel now have a little more to say when you talk with them.
[Update] General lighting improvements in several areas of the world
[Update] “Find Odin” mission now turns off its indicator when the player enters the Hotel Lobby.
[Update] Removed requirement for the Rooftop squad to be dealt with to get the S.O.S mission notification.
[Update] The Superjump tutorial is now a Primary Tutorial, not a secondary tutorial, ensuring that it will always trigger for new players.
[Update] There are now several more Flashlight tutorial trigger zones. It should be pretty difficult now to miss one of them, especially when leaving TopExt.


FIXES

[Fix] Some changes to how “talk anywhere” lines work - though we are having difficulty replicating some of the reported issues with this. Please reach out to us if you still encounter issues with talking to the combatants/”bad-guys”.
[Fix] Fixed multiple vents in HotelTower3 that had holes open to the void. Thx to @Harlock discord user for the heads up and screenshot!
[Fix] Various fixes to the Icer scene.
[Fix] Corrected a scripting error where sometimes a very casual soldier would spawn for the icer scene after everyone had been eliminated in TopExt.
[Fix] Fixed a bug in the Hotel Talk Anywhere Scripting where the player would have to say a line twice to get an NPC to properly respond.
[Fix] Incorrect robot voice removed from elon convo
[Fix] Logic flaw in convo with Ellen/Franky fixed
[Fix] Broken/missing Odin's henchman line fixed
[Fix] Lowered the clamped move speed for elevators and made some logic changes to how they work. It should now be significantly harder for players to jump and fly out of elevators while they are moving.
[Fix] Fixes to healing and repairing tutorials.
[Fix] Fixed a ton of “invisible walls” in the Lobby. Should be all gone now...
[Fix] Fixes to completing the Elon gear mission
[Fix] Fixed a bug where if the player pulled the an Assault Blaster from a chest, they wouldn't get the dialogue about it.
[Fix] Dead bodies in the TTCore level will no longer start out as zombies before falling.
[Fix] Squad leaders should no longer spawn mysteriously injured after loading a saved game.
[Fix] Fixed some phantom collision in TopExt.
[Fix] Fixed turtled turrets that could be seen poking through ceilings - those turrets should no longer turtle. Please let us know if you find turrets poking through ceilings. (screenshot of location would be ace).
[Fix] Fixed a bug where PrimeCitizenPointLights were displayed incorrectly. They would render differently depending on how you looked at them, and whether you looked away from them or not.
[Fix] Fixed some misleading lights in TopExt with no clear source.
[Fix] Career record now properly updates kills.
[Fix] Fixed solar panel power switch. Added a wire to make it absolutely clear what it changes.
[Fix] All public opinion calls are now clamped to 0-100. Should prevent being able to get an erroneous negative number.
[Fix] Fixed bug where accessing the Icer for the Voice would rapidly swap between the context 'SABOTAGING' and 'HACKING'.
[Fix] Fixed a bug where the player could ledge-grab onto the map inside an elevator.
[Fix] Fixed a bug where surrogates didn't really seem interested in fighting the player during the X-01 version of the Icer scene.
[Fix] Fixed some strange aesthetic spaces assigned to Hotel Tower 3 entrances.
[Fix] Fixed a problem with Nanite Fragments, where recyclable versions would spawn at 0,0,0, resulting in no fragment showing up where it’s supposed to be.
[Fix] Definitive fix for that one extremely aggravating transition door in-between the Hotel Lower rooms and Water Hub B.
[Fix] Fixed dialogue problems with Franky in the WaterHub.
[Fix] Corrected lore inaccuracy in the Text Briefing. Changed to dec 21st.
[Fix] Fixed a bug where Elen Gibbons could walk through the Icer
[Fix] Geometric fixes in the really busy tunnels of Water Hub B, near the Nanite Fragment.
[Fix] Fixed some collision on a few pipe props.
[Fix] Fixed a bug where display stands would spawn a fully visible newscaster at the stand.
[Fix] Fixed bug where in some scenarios the binding for shutting of the TT Core electricity wouldn't be called, so the power couldn't be shut off correctly
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Re: EA Alpha 1.3 Bugs! Comments! Discussions!

Post by FordGT90Concept » Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:02 pm

I tried Malcolm and ran into a performance problem. Jump to 2:30...
https://youtu.be/N5vW5KVcaTM
I am running beta, pre-release AMD drivers which could be contributing to this. Needs confirmation...
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Re: EA Alpha 1.3 Bugs! Comments! Discussions!

Post by Übermensch » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:47 pm

Hi, I seem to be experiencing a bug in the hotel area. Once I go through the downstairs door to the area where R9 says "Oh look, more nanocrystals" and then if I attempt to go through the lower door, the game crashes. This doesn't seem to happen with the lift, I think.

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Post by Chaosian » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:22 pm

Found and fixed that bug in Hotel Tower 3. Thanks for the video, Ford! o/

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Re: EA Alpha 1.3 Bugs! Comments! Discussions!

Post by Chaosian » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:23 pm

Übermensch wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:47 pm
Hi, I seem to be experiencing a bug in the hotel area. Once I go through the downstairs door to the area where R9 says "Oh look, more nanocrystals" and then if I attempt to go through the lower door, the game crashes. This doesn't seem to happen with the lift, I think.
Do you have a screenshot of the problematic area? I could try to debug what your problem is from there.

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Post by Übermensch » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:47 pm

Here's some screenshots of the area. It usually produces an Unreal Engine crash report, but this time it just crashed to a black screen. I'll post the crash report if I get it back.
For more context, it's down the stairs from the hotel lobby with the 'Japanese' soldiers, in that area where you can see 21212121 but can't reach it, there's an unpowered lift and a doorway that level streams the part in the screenshots, but that area only leads to another level streaming doorway.

For an added bonus, first time I tried to replicate the bug, I fell through the map! Did manage to land on the unpowered lift, though... And not pictured, I cleared the tower roof of mooks, but the SOS quest marker seems to be buried about half a metre under the snow.
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Re: EA Alpha 1.3 Bugs! Comments! Discussions!

Post by Chaosian » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:00 pm

Thanks Übermensch.
If you can get the report those are very useful. I'll investigate what's up with the doors, that's been a problem area for us for a little while- though I had thought it was pretty good now.

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Post by Übermensch » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:43 pm

Cheers, I actually used the lift bug to my advantage to traverse the lower levels, but then I got killed by
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Here's that error log for you! Strange how it's all calling on Source. Didn't you switch to UE4?

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LoginId:9f9ec4bb447cd1e2ed3dfd922cdf254e
EpicAccountId:64f15d6b49b245438942d077355d8622

Assertion failed: bRegistered [File:d:\unrealengine_idgi\Engine\Source\Runtime\Engine\Private\Components\ActorComponent.cpp] [Line: 722] 



thetower!FDebug::AssertFailed() [d:\unrealengine_idgi\engine\source\runtime\core\private\misc\assertionmacros.cpp:349]
thetower!UActorComponent::BeginPlay() [d:\unrealengine_idgi\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\components\actorcomponent.cpp:723]
thetower!AActor::BeginPlay() [d:\unrealengine_idgi\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\actor.cpp:3113]
thetower!AActor::DispatchBeginPlay() [d:\unrealengine_idgi\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\actor.cpp:3097]
thetower!ULevel::RouteActorInitialize() [d:\unrealengine_idgi\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\level.cpp:1765]
thetower!UWorld::AddToWorld() [d:\unrealengine_idgi\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\world.cpp:2147]
thetower!UWorld::UpdateLevelStreamingInner() [d:\unrealengine_idgi\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\world.cpp:2780]
thetower!UWorld::UpdateLevelStreaming() [d:\unrealengine_idgi\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\world.cpp:2846]
thetower!UGameViewportClient::Draw() [d:\unrealengine_idgi\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\gameviewportclient.cpp:1148]
thetower!FViewport::Draw() [d:\unrealengine_idgi\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\unrealclient.cpp:1185]
thetower!UGameEngine::RedrawViewports() [d:\unrealengine_idgi\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\gameengine.cpp:491]
thetower!UGameEngine::Tick() [d:\unrealengine_idgi\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\gameengine.cpp:1246]
thetower!FEngineLoop::Tick() [d:\unrealengine_idgi\engine\source\runtime\launch\private\launchengineloop.cpp:3045]
thetower!GuardedMain() [d:\unrealengine_idgi\engine\source\runtime\launch\private\launch.cpp:166]
thetower!GuardedMainWrapper() [d:\unrealengine_idgi\engine\source\runtime\launch\private\windows\launchwindows.cpp:134]
thetower!WinMain() [d:\unrealengine_idgi\engine\source\runtime\launch\private\windows\launchwindows.cpp:210]
thetower!__scrt_common_main_seh() [f:\dd\vctools\crt\vcstartup\src\startup\exe_common.inl:264]
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Post by GreatBird » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:45 pm

Thank-you!

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Re: EA Alpha 1.3 Bugs! Comments! Discussions!

Post by FordGT90Concept » Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:15 am

alphatest...

A lot more jitter on the main menu than I saw previously, especially, surges in the Game thread:
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"GAMEPAD FACE BUTTON BOTTOM" Wait, what? It should be noted that I do have an Xbox 360 controller, it wasn't on at all while Consortium: The Tower was running.
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Running an R9 390 8 GiB with the following settings and the framerate barely stays above 30 fps. Dunno if this matches your performance target or not. I can feel that it's on the edge of acceptable.
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Crouch/stand animations are clearly tied to framerate. When it is running like above, crouch/stand is notably slow. Edit: video showing this:
https://youtu.be/qsqghjiHAs4

Guards keep giving their banter lines while being tased. The banter should stop the moment the taser starts.

I keep losing track of the cursor on the inventory screen. Blue on blue...isn't high contrast.

Critical: loading a save at this specific location stops jumping from working (bound to keypad number 3):
https://youtu.be/PAJHoGm4C24
I'm smashing keypad 3 at the end of the video but it does nothing. Edit: Tried replicating the issue above at the save point just under the VXY Antenna and confirmed on load, no jump.
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Post by FordGT90Concept » Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:44 pm

This video shows three things:
1) The graphic settings I had it set to.
2) The poor performance on the rooftop. Could be related to running 17.11.3, needs confirmation.
3) Hitting escape with graphic settings open doesn't close graphic settings.
https://youtu.be/LuFfDcrTirI

Nov 24 Edit: Performance drop between 17.7 and 17.11.2 drivers. May be fixed in 17.11.3...

The massive framerate issues I saw in the video above are definitely caused by enabling vsync in the game. With vsync off, the framerate weirdly never exceeds 62 fps.
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Post by FordGT90Concept » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:55 pm

Conversations

- "Somebody Spoke to me"
  1. This conversation does not clear after the player completes it.
  2. There is no follow up when choosing the "Seeker" option where K15 orders R25 to look into it.
-"And that's the last of the repairs. Try to keep your gear maintained." dialog stops active conversation. Should be queued instead because it's not urgent.

-Automap conversation, I think I heard K15+R25 lines play twice (this conversation was the one interrupted by the above): K15+R25 about how automap works -> R9 about how there is no backup -> K15+R25 automap works repeat.

-Ellen/Doug guard:
  1. First attempt, guard spawned. I loaded because Ghost failed when the guard saw me.
  2. Second attempt, guard didn't spawn. Loaded again because I hit escape to report #1 during R9's line. Came back to the game and resumed...but R9 didn't get that memo. I waited for 30-60 seconds, decided the conversation wasn't going to proceed, and loaded again.
  3. Third attempt, guard didn't spawn.
-"What Happened?"
  1. Repeatable until the "I can't force you to talk" line is given.
  2. Always gives "I do not appreciate being ignored" line regardless of having done the conversation.
  3. Both of the above lines interrupted me redoing the conversation. :lol:
-"P.C.U. Alterations" is repeatable.

-Potential link between "What Happened?" and "P.C.U. Alterations": both dialogs trigger automatically when they are available and the Conversation Manager is opened. I believe this change is maybe what stopped them from clearing. "Somebody Spoke to me" may not be disappearing because the followup fails to trigger.

-Since 1.2 (I think it was), I have not seen the conversation option that leads to talking to the P32 follow up. I think it might be the convo that only people not importing a save get. If that's the case, they can never reach the P32 follow up because cannon is that P32 was not discovered. In other words, the P32 convo can't happen at all anymore.

-"Phase Field" seems like it is missing a line of dialog. R25 says something about the liquid and asks a rehetorical question about "guess what that is made of" then the follow up choices are "Great, thank you" or "how do I get to the parking garage?" I think R9 or K15 saying "you need that liquid and the only way to get it is in the parking garage" should be in between.


Environment

-If you recycle the element crate on the very top of tower 2 (next to save point) the stuff on top of it can fall through and become unreachable under the snow.

-The ladder attached to Tower 2, just above the red transponder/VXY door is difficult to get on because the functionality of the ladder seems to be to the right of the visual ladder. If you go to the right to get on it, you'll get on it.

-Found two places on the rooftop where you can bump your head while standing/going through doorway:
https://youtu.be/XgB4z84UpjM

-Elon doesn't have a Tactical HUD triangle on him anymore. Doug still does even though he shouldn't.

-Automap, noticed after R9 talked about SOS: the right "Churchill Tower Markers" window is empty. I think I went into the elevator and failed that "go to lobby via elevator" error occurred here too.
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-I don't think there's enough utility energy in the park. Felt chronically low (down to 41% -> 1% after tasing three guards) when tasing everyone (see Engineering System -> BUS below).


Combat

-Still hate how turrets hide. How about making them hide only 10% of the time?


Engineering System

-Stealth Node
  1. 1500 -> 1490 UE/s is hardly worth it.
  2. The detect distance stat apparently doesn't mean anything. I'm tasing a guy, with the stealth node enabled, and another guard is literally bumping into me asking "what's that?" :lol:
-BUS: The Taser Level 1 upgrade doesn't feel meaningful. I had the first upgrade for the PCU's energy and it still took 11% of my energy to down a single guard with 4 basic shield nodes, 15% for 5 basic shield nodes.


Options

-Control Sensitivity returns to 1.0 on restarting the game...it either isn't being saved, isn't being loaded, or both. I set it to 1.3 for the record.

-The anti-aliasing slider appears it should be slightly bigger to make the text line up on the right.


Crash

-Could be bRegistered ActorComponent line 722 but may not be. All it said was "You do not have any debugging symbols required to display the callstack for this crash." I saved in the park by the door leading to the Hotel Rooms, loaded, and crashed.
no_debug_symbols.zip
Crash Report
(1.83 MiB) Downloaded 64 times
crash_on_load.zip
Save Crashes on Load
(2.31 MiB) Downloaded 64 times
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Post by DevourMistress » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:50 am

I've noticed, that when you save the game and then load before the whole chat about "hey bishop, something's triggered your map, have a look" (or however that conv goes) and then when you open the map, you should see the park with 21212121 as mission waypoint in there.... except, when you save and load, it doesn't show the park marked as red. Sure, if you save and play straight from start to that moment without loading the save before the red marked area appears on the park, it works fine.

Not sure if the issue is only in the imported games or if it works in new game starts too.....

Anyway, should the devs need more info, i can provide a video material on the issue, but since it's easy to replicate (for me at least) it shouldn't be that hard for devs to replicate.

Edit: also noticed, that by reloading earlier save, it also breaks some chat triggers etc.

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Re: EA Alpha 1.3 Bugs! Comments! Discussions!

Post by FordGT90Concept » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:59 am

alphatest...

Balancing Musings

This is kind of hard to explain so have a picture of a table:
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Basically what I'm trying to show is that there's always a perpetual conflict between what you have, what you need, and how you get it. I'm not entirely sure distinguishing these things is even necessary because one could theoretically make ammo from utility energy and recycling their stuff could give you back what it took to take them down.

Not in the table, but also important, is engineering points. It's a lot like ammo in that it's gamey. Why not just make upgrades require a lot of energy so when you get a surplus of it, you have something to spend it on rather than venting utility energy just so you can harvest more engineering points to upgrade stuff?

Alternatively, maybe engineering points should be divorced from utility energy entirely. For example, make every upgrade cost one engineering point and you can only get them from recycling the nanite fragments which don't give any utility energy. In this way, they would act like Praxis points in DXHR and DXMD. You have to ration what you get and you're rewarded hugely for exploring to find those fragments. For example, find a nanite fragment, you get 10 engineering system upgrades.

Lobby Issues

Not sure if intentional but can't recycle this titanium crate:
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I killed a guy (the one that is next to me) then heard a strange sound start...
https://youtu.be/kebw7_mQb5E

Invisible collision meshes that were there before are still there.
https://youtu.be/sQSFHFdX8oA

At first I was like :?: (saw something strange)
Then I was :o (it's glass)
Then I was :shock: (that's a lot of glass)
Then I was :( (I can't recycle it)
https://youtu.be/em7AxMpm4rA

Here is where I found the source of the sound. Also, a lot more glass. A ridiculous amount of glass.
https://youtu.be/5fflv0qBsrY

I think this issue in the office area has been pointed out before but in case it hasn't...
https://youtu.be/FPNQ7j1ZGhA
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Re: EA Alpha 1.3 Bugs! Comments! Discussions!

Post by DevourMistress » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:04 am

FordGT90Concept wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:59 am
alphatest...

Balancing Musings

This is kind of hard to explain so have a picture of a table:
Image

Basically what I'm trying to show is that there's always a perpetual conflict between what you have, what you need, and how you get it. I'm not entirely sure distinguishing these things is even necessary because one could theoretically make ammo from utility energy and recycling their stuff could give you back what it took to take them down.

Not in the table, but also important, is engineering points. It's a lot like ammo in that it's gamey. Why not just make upgrades require a lot of energy so when you get a surplus of it, you have something to spend it on rather than venting utility energy just so you can harvest more engineering points to upgrade stuff?
Agreed, it would be wise to allow creating ammunition with engineering system, + enhance the energy gain when recycling. you can't even use stealth node without running out of energy in like, half a min, if you haven't completely upgraded your energy stores in PCU

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Post by FordGT90Concept » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:19 pm

Being friendly with the local muscle in Hotel Rooms and there's a dialog where he says he scored 80%. Then in a response, you can mock him that he only scored 90%. I think 90% in ISS should be 80%:
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Can't get to the water tubes because the switch on the hatch isn't working in Hotel Rooms:
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Tried to get to treatment plant from TTCore but that's blocked too. Then I hit a major glitch with water climbing back up the ladder (40 second mark):
https://youtu.be/vTU3tmS8_hs


Turret Musings

Why not make turrets motion sensitive? If you're walking (is there a walk/run toggle?), they're blissfully unaware of you. This would allow people that are ill-equipped to deal with them to circumvent them (e.g. talkers or those that ran out of ammo).
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Post by FordGT90Concept » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:45 pm

11/29 alphatest

Loaded save from above post:
https://youtu.be/9RSq5uU8dg0
  1. Ladder at the beginning doesn't auto-dismount. Have to jump off.
  2. Really dark at the bottom of that ladder and beyond the hatch.
  3. Why does R9 say "this looks interesting?" at the beginning of the Thames Water Plant? It makes me think I should find something to scan.
  4. In the same area he says there, there's two turrets in this room (maybe more) that never attacked me. I most likely didn't do whatever makes them mad but if they're supposed to shoot at everything in the room, then something broke.
  5. Just keep swimming... Everything here is new to me.
  6. 4:11 hit first butterfly valve into a transition area.
  7. 4:30 hit a second butterfly valve to leave transition area and it doesn't open up. Video cuts here but I tried to go back to the other buetterfly valve door to leave the way I came and it is bugged too (closed, no interaction text).
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Post by FordGT90Concept » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:33 am

12/1 alphatest

https://youtu.be/cHAQg_-GDgQ
  1. Started recording to show clear sight picture on turrets but shot connects with wall instead of target.
  2. The turrets popped up but none of them shot at me.
  3. The turrets failed to retreat like normal. I'm usually not fast enough to go 3 for 3 on them. This may coincide with the noise like they're trying to retreat but are obstructed.
  4. End of video, climbed out of water into a ceiling.
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Post by FordGT90Concept » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:05 pm

Conversations

-Random Guy in Lobby:
  1. Seeker: Hiya, how you doing badguy?
  2. Badguy: something about the nanites are trying to kill us and Odin doesn't pay enough for this shit.
  3. Seeker: I'll figure out the nanites, don't worry.
  4. Badguy: "None: "
-Odin:
  1. There's major problems at the beginning of this conversation. Odin, 1, & 2 are talking at the same time R25, R9, and K15 are via CMC. Not only can I really not follow any of it, the subtitles are a wreck while this is happening.
  2. There's still some synthesized lines in there. Not sure if they should all be voiced or not.
  3. Already referred to Chaosian: if aggitation meter goes to 9 and you tell them to stop shooting, Odin can no longer be talked to.

Lobby Stuffs

-Invisible walls: https://youtu.be/rFT3HzHFCtI

-Took mission from Odin to get guns to give to Elon, the waypoint in the automap is like at the base of the tower. Also, again with the Churchill Tower Markers being blank.
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-Dynamic object making a racket: https://youtu.be/cfhIZHkRlF0

-Streaming issue: https://youtu.be/lf0e6PN6-Qk


General

-Every fifth jump or so charges the jump without holding the jump button: https://youtu.be/7RhmCdhr81w
press -> release -> charging super jump -> fully charged super jump -> press -> super jump
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Post by FordGT90Concept » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:00 pm

12/1 achievementtest

-Convinced none of the achievements work. I for sure should have gotten the following but, nope:
ACHIEVEMENT_INCAP_ELON_SQUAD
ACHIEVEMENT_INCAP_ELON
ACHIEVEMENT_FALL_OFF_TOWER

-Collision issue by Red Transponder door on roof: https://youtu.be/jwGccTnVeiY

-Janitor achievements. I consider myself an achievement hunter and I don't think I would ever try to get the janitor achievements. Reasons:
  1. Stuff falls out of accessible range or...freaks out because of PhysX settling objects (literally seen crates fly in Lobby).
  2. The massive drain on energy from freefall suit + Tactical HUD + necessity to vent energy to make room for recycling more means you'll likely die trying on the Rooftop.
  3. These kinds of achievements are never fun to do.
Suggestion/alternative: make them counter achievements instead where you need to recycle x number of items from each area across multiple playthroughs. Replaying is fun, searching every nook and cranny for a missing recyclable is not.
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Post by Berathraben » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:31 am

FordGT90Concept wrote:
Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:44 pm
This video shows three things:
1) The graphic settings I had it set to.
2) The poor performance on the rooftop. Could be related to running 17.11.3, needs confirmation.
3) Hitting escape with graphic settings open doesn't close graphic settings.
https://youtu.be/LuFfDcrTirI

Nov 24 Edit: Performance drop between 17.7 and 17.11.2 drivers. May be fixed in 17.11.3...

The massive framerate issues I saw in the video above are definitely caused by enabling vsync in the game. With vsync off, the framerate weirdly never exceeds 62 fps.
I tried to duplicate the FPS issues Ford had. I updated to 17.11.1 and have a AMD R9 380 GPU. I did not have any of the same issues at least as far as I could tell.

https://youtu.be/Mf-UgsFqQb0
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Post by Berathraben » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:01 am

I have recently encountered a few bugs

They are on the floor when you use the Yellow key card from Elon to take the elevator (16X floor).
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The first potential bug is hitting an invisible wall. This particular one could be intentional...but there appears to be an empty space behind it.
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I cannot move passed this spot but it looks like there is an opening. It feels like I am hitting an invisible wall.
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This is the door leading to that room.

The second bug is the floor and walls disappearing and I end up falling through the floor. There are also grenade packs hidden in the area and they respawn every time I drop thorough the floor.

https://youtu.be/99F_BVfCYbQ

The Third bug is when I recycle a table some times the objects on top start bouncing on the floor or disappear altogether. I only have a video of the former.

https://youtu.be/a9ADemD8rsY

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Post by DevourMistress » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:47 pm

just letting you guys know, if you don't already know, that hotel floors 169, 170 and 171 are having issues with environment loading. walls, the floor and the ceiling glitching, sometimes even disappearing [which means turrets aim at you through walls, but the collisions are still there so they can't do anything]. Oh, and the floor 170 has floor issues in front of elevators: it means that the floors in front of elevators don't load at all: no collision, no textures. You can wall through them to floor below if you're not careful.

Edit: forgot to mention, that when climbing in the vents or higher areas in floor 170, the floor can glitch and make you wall to floor below. Texture/collisions unloading, then reloading

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Post by DevourMistress » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:33 pm

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issue on vent floor collision/texture. automap location below it. Already reported and pic linked on discord, simply record keeping by officially posting here too

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Post by DevourMistress » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:16 pm

found an interesting vent bug on floor 171

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXk6V4JUc2Y

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Post by FordGT90Concept » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:42 pm

12/13 achievementtest

-vsync still pulses on my R9 390. I get about 30-45 fps with it enabled and 45-60 fps with it disabled. My monitor is 60 Hz.

-VO volume still doesn't fall off appropriately. Their lines sound about as loud 30 feet away as they do 3 feet away.

Major/Game Breaking Bugs!
1. Automap is broken.
https://youtu.be/Oh3azKdm38Q
2. No Voice lines about meeting him.
3. No objective to open Automap and mark 212121 location.
4. Voice encounter does not trigger.
https://youtu.be/lrDMdCmkCHY

-Recycled Elon's Transponder by accident. I hope it is made so just interaction with Elon's body is enough to claim it so doing "recycle all" on Elon doesn't screw you out of that transponder.

-"What happened" conversation is no longer available to players that captured the traitor (because cannon story doesn't capture the traitor) so there is no dialog chain, as far as I'm aware, that leads to a conversation with the traitor. ACHIEVEMENT_TRAITOR_CONVO is therefore impossible.

-Ellen subtitle says: "...experiment Darise cooked up..." the VO says "...experiment the boss cooked up..." Directly following that, Seeker: "And Darise, that's your boss?" doesn't make sense because she says "the boss" not "Darsie." That selection should be something like "And who is your boss?" Ellen already starts that response with "Darsie Lensworth" TL;DR: what it should be...
Ellen subtitle: "...experiment the boss cooked up..."
Seeker response: "And who is your boss?"
Ellen response: "Darsie Lensworth."

https://youtu.be/0gv_JI46CjY

https://youtu.be/hJH9dbdEdTo

https://youtu.be/vEWGyAbl6Ts

https://youtu.be/9sB7NdzwkoM
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Post by DevourMistress » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:03 am

Another missing textures/collision (note, also automap for some reason didn't show player icon)

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Post by FordGT90Concept » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:19 am

12/13 achievementtest

-Amendment to the above: "his mind is filled with turmoil and regret" triggered in the Ice Cave, followed by R25's line and 212121 shows up on opening the automap (that is still broken); however, even having a visible waypoint to 212121, The Voice encounter still doesn't trigger. It's impossible to test violent achievements because of this.

-As discussed in Discord, "Freefall suit" convo never appears when importing a save.

Lobby Stuffs

https://youtu.be/QI-n004ZiG0
https://youtu.be/EQi5fgqbQT8
Two things happening here: 1) I think this is the same group of guards in the video above and 2) after I finished the conversation with Odin ended with accepting the TTCore objective, Odin's conversation restarted (can see it at the top of the pic). I hit "Move On" and it repeated again. I hit "Move On" again and the squad turned hostile:
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Guard got stuck under the nanite ramp in the lobby:
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TTCore Stuffs

-The fast moving platforms in TTCore have the same issue that the elevators did: if you start flying on them, the platform can move through you. They're moving too fast for PhysX to catch the collision.

-Haven't 100% confirmed this yet but have a strong suspicion that you can duplicate the shotguns by picking up the guns off of dead guards at the bottom of TTCore, save, then load again. The load brings the dead guards back so they can be looted again.


UI Stuffs

https://youtu.be/Xw2uA8PslL4

Yellow transponder key, when in one of the PCU external slots, renders flipped on the Y-axis so "Card" ends up being mirrored. It appears correctly when in one of the PCU slots:
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Stacks of shields and weapons don't give the stack transfer pop up to move many. It was super annoying trying to collect all the goods Elon needs from Odin's chest.

Death by Assault Blaster apparently shows up as "radioactive energy" damage. This surprised me because that gun doesn't give the impression of being a rad weapon.


Turret of Doom Strikes Again!

Free flight suit with no upgrades, two Consortium shield nodes, death in 22 frames at 30 frame per second = 0.73 seconds:
https://youtu.be/tM4PC-Wm32c
Attaching the save just before this. Doubt it will replicate but maybe there's hope:
save.zip
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-Not a turret of doom but the rocket launcher at the top of the Park managed to kill me in three shots with the same setup.


Conversations

-At the end of the Elon convo where you found out he was responsible for Felixstowe + accepted mission to arm him, VO says "Consortium mandate" but subtitles say "Consortium protocol"

-The "Yellow Transponder Key" conversation doesn't appear unless Elon gives it to you. Should appear when you get it no matter how you get it.

-On the K15 line when approaching Odin, subtitles show "What a nice guy...what have we got on him?" The voice over only says "What a nice guy" then it jumps right into R25.

-There still persists an issue where if you hit escape during a conversation, there's like a delay of silence before the conversation progresses when unpausing. Seems to happen randomly and (perhaps always) when in a direct conversation (not CMC).


Performance

-Tried Radeon Adrenaline driver. Still get pulsing issues with vsync enabled in game. When vsync is disabled, the game appears to be capped at 62 fps on my 60 Hz monitor. FPS at the main menu should be much higher.

-Observed FPS of 25-26 in the lobby while staring at Odin. CPU, RAM, disk, weren't maxing out. GPU was around 75-78%. It doesn't make sense to me why the FPS is so low when nothing is maxing out.
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Post by fanatictentacle » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:53 pm

Hey I've got a completly new bug:
Since I have an Oculus Rift now, every time I want to launch the game the oculus software opens up, and remaps the audio output to the rift. Of course there is no video output on it, but I cant get the audio back on the speakers. Aditionally the background services eat up some cpu power. I dont know why the oculus software thinks that The Tower is an oculus title.

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Post by FordGT90Concept » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:44 pm

12/13 achievementtest

I tried getting past the OP turret with Buddha mode and...well...
https://youtu.be/PnKvfvCmBwE


I flipped the switch for Preban then found another turret on the same floor that I killed. This triggered a dialog starting with R25 and ending with K15 that said something to the effect of "that's the last of them" then something about Preban's switch...that I already flipped. Dialog shouldn't trigger if the switch is already flipped.

Still a hole out of the TTCore:
https://youtu.be/wc7YGrLAXIk

...haven't found how to turn off power to TTCore water yet...

...I cheated and still can't find a way in there. Remember: automap broken.

Near the path to Odin's switch, I recycled this stuff but is visibly still there and not interactible:
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I closed the game down because Odin breaking annoyed me, and loaded again to see if I can make Elon happy instead, and R9 thinks I'm by the Odin switch:
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https://youtu.be/75YAW-Oo7qQ


I like that Elon's Supply Chest takes what it needs but it's a little *too* greedy. It took all of my 716 KAR bullets and even took shield nodes I had equipped in my free flight suit.


Mouse wheel doesn't work over the PCU Storage area of the UI.
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Post by FordGT90Concept » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:38 am

12/13 achievementtest

Famosa is just as broken as the Voice. I got captured, I didn't lose my PCU, and Famosa never came. I went to the area without getting captured and he never started speaking to me. I uploaded the video of this because:
1) Turrets on the solar array generally don't attack. Beginning of video.
2) Getting up the solar array is difficult.
3) Famosa obviously doesn't make an appearance. Midpoint of video.
4) The elevator shaft next to this area seems like a dead end/worthless.
5) The duct next to the elevator shaft has an object clipping into it so I can't get by it. Literally last thing in the video.
https://youtu.be/W5i7hIagJe8


So conversation starting with rooftop squad has some options that don't make sense. Starts with...
Seeker: Hey, why aren't you shooting at me?
Squad Member 1: That's a damn good question isn't it? Maybe it's because you're not a threat, and my boss is an idiot.
Rook 25: What was that?
Rook 9: Certainly isn't Al Qaeda.
The choice that doesn't make sense is: Yeah it is a good question, and what's the answer?

I don't understand it.


Equipping or unequipping stops actively repairing it.

Should add a "Turrets Destroyed" metric to the "Career Record" display.

The turrets killed achievements seem to be linked to number killed in a single instance rather than a global variable spanning multiple plays. Should probably make that clear in the description.
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Post by DevourMistress » Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:32 pm

Automap location of Toxic save sphere, that corrupted by save file after saving there.
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Save file where i'm trapped in room between rooftop and park. Game crashes when trying to exit said room. Enjoy
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Post by Kamroarl » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:00 pm

Im really curious why some old, early reported and already fixed bugs from previous alpha versions return in new builds so often? Is it some difficulties in code sync between 3 devs?


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Post by GreatBird » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:16 pm

Hey Kamroarl ... to which bugs are you referring?
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