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EA Alpha 1.5 bugs, comments, suggestions!

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Thread not created yet so copy-pasta last thread... (edit/hijack as you need to)

Early Access ALPHA 1.5


-“bRegistered” Crash
We are happy to announce that the infamous “bRegistered” crash has been fixed. This means that the game is now very stable, and all of the Act 1 content should be quite playable in any order.


Major combat balancing change. The early player is now much, much stronger, more befitting a Consortium Bishop. This change also aligns the early game combat difficulty to be much closer to the intended Rooftop narrative. Details of changes:

-Incoming and outgoing damage has been changed significantly.
-NPC armor damage propagation works differently now so that each successful hit from the player will now visibly reduce health on the health bar.
-Toughened up shield nodes so they can handle incoming damage much better and won't break so easily
-Tasers will now render non shielded targets unconscious much faster. Shields now take a little longer to tase down (don’t worry, upgrades are coming for the taser to overcome this).
-Fully re-tuned the damage type values so that energy damage is superior at shredding and damaging through physical armor, and similarly, physical damage (bullets, shells) can shred through energy shields. Conversely of course, physical protects best against physical, and energy protects best against energy. It was always *sort of* balanced this way, but now it’s much more pronounced to hopefully encourage changing up weapons more.
-Re-tuned the NPC Stamina system. Once a combatant has been 75% wounded, the chance of them surrendering soon after is now greatly increased. In addition, their stamina will begin to fall very fast as they succumb to their wounded status, rendering the target unconscious within 5-7 seconds. Encourages shooting combatants down to be very wounded, then disengaging and waiting ‘til they drop unconscious or surrender, then incapacitating them with nanites.


[Update] Freefall suit controls and handling polish - fixed up long-standing issue where player would stop in mid-air when disengaging the suit thrusters. Momentum is now properly maintained throughout. Also tuned thrusters to more realistically counter gravity.
[Update] Complete rebalancing of Engineering system. Major utility energy cost boosts to upgrades, engineering point requirements. All upgrades now take 5 seconds to complete.
[Update] Fixed Elon’s dialog tree so the option to tell Elon NO stays around longer
[Update] Alvarez’s loudspeaker lines now sound like they come from a loudspeaker.
[Update] Park tree and spire layout now properly matches roof tree layout.
[Update] New talk anywhere failure lines for Hotel Squad (ISS’s 804 - 823)
[Update] New talk anywhere lines [800] and [824] to Hotel Squad
[Update] Tuned electrified water damage
[Update] Significantly reduced the time it takes for a water hub door to open. Should help prevent non-progression bugs in level streaming, as well as make it less tedious to spend time in the water hub.
[Update] Wind now supports falloff curves. Implemented for all underwater fans, simulating water current strength loss with distance and improving gameplay.
[Update] Change to global turret placement, types and damage balance. Expect the unexpected...
[Update] Frag grenades removed from rooftop Mercs.
[Update] Rocket turrets removed from game entirely - they need more polish, will be re-introduced in Act 2 levels.
[Update] HUD: Enemy health/stamina bar now has icons instead of words, easier to read bar levels now.
[Update] More recyclables and save spheres added to WaterHub areas.
[Update] All previously static placeholder cabinets in the Hotel are now openable. Goodies found within.
[Update] If you import a universe from CONSORTIUM, you now start with a lower public opinion if you killed mercs on Zenlil.
[Update] Updated the C3800 ending text to reflect what the player can do to avoid the XO-1 ending.
[Update] Being shot and killed by Malcolm’s guard now gives a unique end-game death text.
[Update] Added a new nanite/recyclable turret trap in the Lobby.
[Update] Made a slight change to how the automap handles the “unknown interference” area - hints at a future art pass where all of the waterhub automap “boxes” will be cylinders, to more easily distinguish underwater areas and normal areas.
[Update] Total squad kill / incap dialogue no longer plays if the player has reached a public opinion rating of 0, or is XO-1’d.
[Update] New method for determining when the play is or is not at the surface of water.
[Update] Fixed up the visibility of two turrets in waterhub1B and added cover spots.
[Update] Added a colored wire visually connecting a power switch with a fan in HotelTower3.


[Fix] Fixed vent aesthetic space not properly being set for HotelTower3 vent maze
[Fix] Modified level to allow players to get out of the multi-fan water pit in the WaterHub.
[Fix] Removed erroneous scene with the Surrogate if the player was XO-1 but had NOT yet met the surrogate via the S.O.S scene.
[Fix] Elon will no longer try and make you surrender if you defected from the Consortium. Also fixes for triggering Elon’s conversation.
[Fix] Fixed a really nasty bug where the full XO-1 WaterHub combat sequence wouldn't trigger.
[Fix] Fix for fans erroneously not spinning in HotelTower3.
[Fix] Fix for fans not damaging players sometimes.
[Fix] Ledge grab fixes to make ledge grabbing out of water work better and more consistently. General fixes to hopefully improve the system overall. (if you find a way to ledge grab out of the world, we want to know about it please :)
[Fix] Fixed bad water volume placement which could cause very broken "swimming in the air" behaviour in waterhub
[Fix] Fix for the wind sometimes erroneously turning off on the roof.
[Fix] Fixed up the interaction prompts for closed/locked doors to be consistent and valid.
[Fix] Fixed a nasty bug with doors where a player could open a door, quickly rush through, and
open another door before the last one had closed to unload their current level - ending in falling through the void.
[Fix] Fixed vent door that was erroneously set to release end door.
[Fix] Fixed bug where Talk-Anywhere ISS’s would sometimes linger after you talked to someone
[Fix] Fixed a logic oversight where the player would be able to break the Elon equipment mission.
[Fix] Fixed “ACHIEVMENT_TRAITOR_CONVO” triggering when it should.
[Fix] Various automap labeling and box additions/fixes.
[Fix] Fixed various issues with respawning and stuck recyclables in the Lobby
[Fix] More corrupt invisible geometry removal from the Lobby
[Fix] Fixed various streaming issues in the Lobby
[Fix] Park level fixes - misaligned assets, gaps in geo, ledge grab fixes, etc.
[Fix] Fixed a logic bug that left the visual effects of the tactical mode on during the XO-1 sequence.
[Fix] Tons of badly placed art assets in the WaterHub fixed.
[Fix] Fixed problem logic with save spheres and loading doors that would leave cases where if the player rushed very quickly, they would be able to enter a save sphere and save before levels had properly finished loading in.
[Fix] Lobby sublevels no longer erroneously stream in when exploring the top of the Main Tower Elevator shafts.
[Fix] Removed mysterious geo placed high up above the tower
[Fix] Geo gaps in vents and in in other spots fixed.
[Fix] Fixed rare bug where releasing the super jump button literally .01 seconds too long would produce a bug of you charging a super jump while not having the button held down.
[Fix] Fixed a bug where the electrified water in the TT Core might not be properly shut off if the player had flipped the correct switch in the Water Hub.
[Fix] Fixed a bug where the team would comment on the TT Core water being electrified- even if it wasn't anymore.
[Fix] Numerous small fixes - water placement issues, asset placement fixes, etc.
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Re: EA Alpha 1.5 bugs, comments, suggestions!

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I think InfiniteEnergy exposed some bugs...
1) The moment XO-1 triggered, Bishop 6 threw his gun instead of putting it in the PCU. I believe this happened because the PCU was full of energy so there was no room to put the KAR. He tossed the KAR (literally threw it) instead.
2) I think the previously reported bug about being unable to put any equipped weapon away and said weapon having a blue PCU spawning effect permanently applied to it is also related to having full energy. There's no where to put the rifle in the PCU so it instantly equips it again.
3) Trying to take stuff off of bodies and put it in the PCU doesn't register. Surprisingly, if you disable the PCU, I think they suddenly transfer. I don't really understand it but InfiniteEnergy and transferring shield nodes from body to PCU was involved.
I don't know if these bugs are specifically related to having InfiniteEnergy enabled or if the command exposes an legitimate, underlying bugs.

If Elon's dialog was triggered talking to his wife and you kill him shortly thereafter, his dialogs/subtitles continue to trigger as if he were still alive:

If the player legit has to make an important choice in a dialog, [Move On] should be disabled. Two examples off the top of my head:
1) After Elon's intro dialog, if you use [Move On] after that, he'll turn hostile and attack.
2) If you've been XO-1'd, Voice's first dialog with you, [Move On] will result in normal Consortium ending. There is no "Ok, I accept" in the first choice so it's natural to want to "[Move On]" to the next where the choice is to accept...except it doesn't. Game over.

This save, SOS doesn't trigger (it's XO-1 side):
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... rigger.zip
1) load save
2) ce ie (to get enough energy to fly up there)
3) ce ie (to stop with the infinite energy)
4) go to flashing light
5) no talk anywhere prompt
Edit: May be because the roof isn't cleared?

Conversation between Voice and Frankie now triggers; however, in the escape, I see subtitles for Famosa but there is no audio.
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TTCore -> Water Treatment Plant: those three-four platforms you immediately drop down, when you try climbing back up them, ledge likes to pull B6 *through* them, then fall down. I thought I got a video of this happening but ReLive was recording the wrong monitor. It's very reproducible and...I will get a video of it (I hope, soon):

While using the multiboost of the BUS to gain altitude, if you hold the button a tad too long, the boots start charging to super jump. Perhaps, if you boost once, super jump should be disabled until you're on terra firma again.

I usually don't carry grenades with me because I don't use them. It used to be that the game would just flash "No Ammo" once. In 1.5 however, it seems to flash it non-stop. Kind of annoying.

Elon's dialog chain triggered twice. At the end of the video, the disembodied conversation I can't find is, in fact, Elon doing his entire speech again:

Ellen's start to the icer thing is so confusing to me. This occured as part of the Water Hub -> Roof -> Water Hub sequence:

Tel->Tell: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... nknown.png

I went to Water Hub -> Roof -> Water Hub. R9's "diversion switch" dialog triggered erronously a second time on my second pass through the area (only going down in both cases).

Also on second swim through the Water Hub, the impeller at the bottom of the T in this picture is pushing away twice as hard as it did the first time. Likely an instancing problem with the impeller force:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... nknown.png

I was asked to check Water Hub Frankie -> Icer Frankie -> Water Hub Frankie. Observed:
game start -> waterhub: no frankie
-> icer: Ellen had a weird start to this involving a guard, otherwise, no change
-> waterhub: no frankie
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tower 1 top elevator shaft, access by tower 1 top vents, if you go all the way up the shaft then go to back down, the utility hatch's won't show the prompt to open then, and the save sphere at the button of the shaft will not work, it show but won't work
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ttcore -> waterhub: getting out of the water in this room made so i can no longer use power jump or equip guns, might be because i got of the water using the "flying suit" and the trustees were on.(flying from in to out of the water?)
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Post by Harlock »

Cabinets being duped
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... 0753_1.jpg

Missing utility hatches.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... 1057_1.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... 2532_1.jpg
Platform that raises that went through the floor at the top of TTCore access.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... 2948_1.jpg
Gap too small to walk into.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... 1424_1.jpg
misaligned wall, no automap because I'm a scrub.

Conversations still not purging properly. K15: what happened? and PCU alternations sticking around after playing them, though K-15 does accept that the conversation has happened now.

Other comments: Subtitles for nanite fragments? weird bug where I went to the park from the fortress of solitude and it just loaded then de-loaded. It's still kinda too easy for a squad member to randomly walk in on you fighting a turret and get spooekd, maybe make the flag so that if you put your gun away and they're not at "shooting you" phase it goes back down? On top of this sometimes they jump up a level seemingly at random. Better feedback and maybe more ways to calm them down by talking to them?
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Post by FordGT90Concept »

To add to the turret thing: is it possible for the AI to figure out if you're targeting the turrets? If it is, and they're a nuisance to all AI, they could have dialog lines that trigger either commenting on the fact that you're attacking them or even thanking you for dealing with them. As long as you're not pointing your gun at the AI and clearly pointing at turrets or empty space, they could like that lowering their agitation. Might be complex to do but food for thought anyway.

It was also mentioned that maybe nanite fragment audio files could be replayed via Conversation Manager.
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