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Who is 12212042 blogger?

Post by FordGT90Concept » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:35 pm

For some reason, in my notes, I suspected 12212042 was Melinda Bellhurst but reading through it again, that clearly is not the case. Here's the series:
http://interdimensionalgaming.wikia.com/wiki/1221
-Worked for Worldview Industries at the Xalapa, Mexico, facility.
-Knew Melinda Bellhurst.
-At first believed Worldview Industries shaped events but the last blog entry suggests he/she believed Worldview Industries was reacting to events.
-The first blog entry's date is "Unknown" but a Terri Kopp article (last in the series) spills the beans that the first article was published on April 6, 2028. The last article was published July 4, 2028.


I'm thinking it is Kevin Chard. Bellhurst and Chard knew each other, he worked at Worldview Industries (good terms in January, 2028), moved to his nannies place in February, 2028, reported missing by Bellhurst on March 2, 2028, and found dead in 2029. All of the blog posts occurred after he fled.

Thoughts?


Edit: Looking at it again, they come across me as out of character for Kevin Chard. :(
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Re: Who is 12212042 blogger?

Post by Historian » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:40 am

Do you have a list of people we know that worked at Xalapa?

Kevin Chard, Walter Greenberg, Keiran Boyle (Was he there regularly? I know he helped review brain candidates), and others all make up the list. If we know the members, we can cross them off based on characterization or date of death to determine the truth.

Likely answer is 'We don't know them yet' - but we could get lucky.

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Re: Who is 12212042 blogger?

Post by FordGT90Concept » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:40 am

During the conversations with Kieran Boyle in Consortium, I get the strong impression that he wasn't directly involved in K-1. Actually, I recall that he was an off-site facility close to K-1 where bodies were taken (Elisa Gutierrez of the Global Newswire reported it). That's likely where the Boyles worked. That said, I don't think he'd have access to the documents that 12212042 claimed to steal because they would be at the main facility, not that secondary facility. We can cross him off the list.

Brayden Shaw (probably not)
-Replaced Kevin Chard at K-1
-Works for Malcolm Thomas
-Kept K-1 operating presumably to let infection spread

Ace Geas? (would Jack Geas had access to the documents?)

Thomas Felchick (Employee #1928)
-Graveyard shift security guard at K-1, March-June 2027
-May have aided Guardians

John Wilconson but we can rule him out right now because he died a year before 12212042 showed up. I highly doubt he had the capacity to post on the Ex-Net.

Jess Chard (probably not because 12212042 claimed to be an employee at K-1 where she never was)
-Son: Kevin Chard
-Monitored by Walter Greenberg
-Recruited Alvarez to hack K-1 to find information about Kevin Chard.

Linda Turip
-K-1 doctor

Linda Witt
-K-1 security officer

Linda Taylor (...is this Rook 9's mother!?!)
-K-1 general technician
-Lives at Worldview Hotel

Peter Yetliveck (probably need to look up the context of that "email")
-Appears in email to Dr. David Schelter
-Fake name
-"Government Spook"
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Re: Who is 12212042 blogger?

Post by Historian » Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:21 am

Yeah, I don't really like any of those names. Not enough info at this point, I'd say - I think Xalapa will be our destination for the last game, where we'll get the answers to the Malcolm/K1 dichotomy.

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Re: Who is 12212042 blogger?

Post by FordGT90Concept » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:23 pm

I'm still thinking Kevin Chard is the best fit. It might not be him but 70% says it is. Not many that worked at K-1 were acquainted with Bellhurst, for example. The laser-like focus on Worldview can be explained by him believing Worldview killed Sarah Valette.

I don't remember why Chard left Worldview in February/March 2028. Was his contract done or did something happen?
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Re: Who is 12212042 blogger?

Post by Historian » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:53 pm

FordGT90Concept wrote:I'm still thinking Kevin Chard is the best fit. It might not be him but 70% says it is. Not many that worked at K-1 were acquainted with Bellhurst, for example. The laser-like focus on Worldview can be explained by him believing Worldview killed Sarah Valette.

I don't remember why Chard left Worldview in February/March 2028. Was his contract done or did something happen?
Maybe he was fired for 'reasons' - reasons being they needed a normal test subject. He's Subject #21 in the Motor Chip reports, right?

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Re: Who is 12212042 blogger?

Post by FordGT90Concept » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:17 pm

Good catch! You may be on to something:
http://interdimensionalgaming.wikia.com ... 21uth_Pt.3

March 15, 2028
I think we may have a problem on our hands with that Jess Chard woman. My people tell me that she met privately with Malcolm Thomas yesterday. She was white as a ghost and visibly pretty frightened, shaking like a leaf, as she walked back to the hostel. You and I both know that he told her something and for God's sakes, we can't have her snooping around asking about Subject 21. Malcolm's little gathering of our brain's family members is becoming quite tiresome... we have to do something, and fast. If he's allowed to draw up some kind of lawsuit with his bullshit, we'd be up shit creek real quick. They could really fuck this whole operation up.
There's only two people I can think of that Jess Chard would ask about: Kevin Chard and Sarah Valetta. Sarah Valetta is dead according to the Church and Henry by or on February 23, 2028. That leaves Kevin. If "Subject 21" is Kevin Chard, Kevin Chard can't be 12212042.

Do you know of any other articles/sources that more strongly link Kevin Chard to Subject 21?
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Re: Who is 12212042 blogger?

Post by Historian » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:57 pm

FordGT90Concept wrote:Good catch! You may be on to something:
http://interdimensionalgaming.wikia.com ... 21uth_Pt.3

March 15, 2028
Do you know of any other articles/sources that more strongly link Kevin Chard to Subject 21?
No. However I do know that Kevin Chard's corpse is dumped in London, with his spine fractured in 21 places. That kind of death is consistent with other Motor Control Chip deaths - unusual fractures and bodily damaged due to ignored limitations on the part of K1. I assumed overall that Kevin Chard was #21, though his relationship to the other drug addict and street urchin subjects is dubious. Why would Chard consent - and if he didn't, what made Worldview force him into such a program?

We're left with a lot of questions - not necessarily answers.

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Re: Who is 12212042 blogger?

Post by FordGT90Concept » Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:34 pm

Interestingly, there is no mention of Subject #21 after Th21e Tr21uth Pt. 4. Subject #21 also stands out as someone Henry was very careful with because he didn't die--at least not in March.

That's a good catch that the motor control chip likely killed Kevin Chard. Considering Henry wouldn't want to kill him, and the fact he was found in London, it's clearly a message to Seekers but...yeah...I have no ideas.


I could see Chard consenting because Henry needed someone he knew to progress the motor control chip development. Other than the brains (which lack bodies), Chard is the individual Henry knew best. He could have volunteered for the sake of Henry's development. Then again, next of kin not being notified is highly suspect.

You'd think Henry wouldn't pressgang Chard into service. Then again, if Henry discovered something about Chard (betrayal, maybe?), Henry would hold no qualms over using him as a guinea pig. At the same time, Henry would be careful because Chard is still far more important to him (betrayal or not) than the other test subjects that mean nothing to Henry.


Wait a minute. Th21e Tr21uth Pt.2 opens with:
I've actually got some good news today, for once, regarding Subject # 21. The whiz kid who nearly killed the Machine.
Did Chard try to kill Henry?


Edit: I'm not sure what you mean by "relationship." I'm under the impression Subject 21 was the only one that was actually suitable for the program. The others were people that wouldn't draw attention if they disappeared (drug addicts and street urchins). Greenberg complained at the end of one of the documents about getting better candidates.
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Re: Who is 12212042 blogger?

Post by Historian » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:51 pm

I mean almost all the subjects were nobodies. Why would Kevin Chard become one of Henry's subjects, voluntarily?

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Re: Who is 12212042 blogger?

Post by FordGT90Concept » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:37 pm

I think the answer is in page 39-41 of the Discoveries.pdf: 2.3.2.1 Audio Puzzle Decoded

They are all Kevin Chard quotes dated January 6 to March 1 of 2028. The issue is that for every entry, there is a one from the King and one from the Church. We'd have to piece together what we know from Consortium to figure out which entry for each date is most likely correct to figure out what happened to him...

Edit: I think I'll try to summarize it in table format on the Wiki so its easier to follow. This appears to be a thread worth pulling...


Edit: Here's the page I'm putting it on. I only have the first day done so far:
http://interdimensionalgaming.wikia.com ... le_Decoded
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Re: Who is 12212042 blogger?

Post by FordGT90Concept » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:45 pm

I got it done and...I think they're both Chard...or at least Subject 21 definitely is.

12212042: Chard sided with Henry and was on the run from Worldview and the Church. Chard and/or Henry stole documents from Worldview upon his departure and was dumping them to the Ex-Net to expose Worldview as an evil organization but, in doing so, discovers that they are not.

Subject 21: Chard sided with the Church sabotaging Henry. Chard was captured by Worldview security and sent to Greenberg as a motor control chip test subject ("Th21e Tr21uth"). This storyline ends with Malcolm Thomas telling us (Consortium, the really well hidden document) he was found dead in 2029 with his spine broken in 21 locations.


Let's fly over to this thread and learn that the split in timelines occurs in late March: after Chard goes missing but before the 12212042 blogs.


...I'm still doing more research but I doubt it will lead to any expansion of the above...
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Re: Who is 12212042 blogger?

Post by Historian » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:54 pm

FordGT90Concept wrote:I'm still doing more research but I doubt it will lead to any expansion of the above...
What side of the Wilconson story does John Wilconson's ghost tell us? It sounds like the letter he sent about the Foremen being taken away isn't really correct - though it's possible he was hit and killed by Worldview to be used in the K-1 project.

Remember that Wilconson is the only verifiable source we have for anything that happened in the ARG as a result of Thomas and Henry's paradox. Henry is limiting the flow of information to Bishop 6 especially via the infoconsole - begging the question of if he's compromised and in what way. He's certainly not under Thomas' control due to the Aegis.

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Post by FordGT90Concept » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:02 pm

Wilconson, when asked what the last thing he remembers in Consortium he says "Fernandez is going to be pissed." Fernandez is the CEO of ReDo. The question is, did he hear this at the location of the accident, implying he was hit by a ReDo vehicle, or did he hear this at ReDo, implying something went wrong with whatever they were doing.

I don't think a connection has ever been drawn between Redo and Worldview except for the fact that Wliconson's personality exists in the K-1 Network.

I know there is an Information Console article from Henry for both decisions the player makes (leave or kill). I haven't really looked at them and a little bit too busy to do so now (discovered a lot of information is missing on the 1221 blog entries)...


Thomas was able to slip a few articles to us. "Otherworlder" and "Th21e Tr21uth" are obvious examples.
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Post by FordGT90Concept » Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:35 pm

...so basically I ran head-first into a brick wall of data. There's a whole lot of data floating around my head so I'll focus on the one point that stood out like a sore thumb...
  1. Augmented Reality Game: Jess Chard and Kevin Chard are found dead in separate restrooms at Heathrow airport with their throats cut on April 23, 2029. Source: Thries Forum Guide\03-21-11 - 04-25-11 = Test #336.pdf
  2. Consortium, Malcolm Thomas: Kevin Chard is "found dead in 2029 with his spinal cord mysteriously fractured in twenty-one places." Source: Otherworlder
  3. Consortium, Consortium King: ?????
Does the absence of knowledge constitute guilt of falsifying documents?

There seems to be a lot of support in favor of the Thomas/Church/Subject 21 line of events and a lack of data on the Henry side except the fringe theory that 12212042 is Kevin Chard post Milestone 2 (March 1, 2028). Unless I'm missing something, of course...


Edit: I don't think Wilconson is of much help in this case. He died (for lack of a better term) in 2027 and the Kevin Chard tale gets interesting in 2028. 12212042 is also in 2028.

Edit: What appears on http://www.johnwilconson.com/ is definitely false. Wilsonson would have mentioned these "horrible events unfolding" had they occurred. He seemed to be perfectly happy working for Worldview.

Edit: Finally got around to the John Wilconson breaking articles: killed or left behind. The former has some details about Pamela Wilconson that are easily missed. This statement is the same in both articles and...concerning: "How his consciousness came to be within my network is something I cannot tell you at this time." Why the secret? There's clearly a lot more to ReDo than we know at this point.

That said, there's another statement (slightly different; underlined differences) in there that appears remarkably true:
  • He Is Hap21pier Now: I was of course unable to access your conversation with Wilconson - your respect and continued belief in our cause are all that matter now. I would not intrude.
  • Interes21ting Choice: I was of course unable to access your conversation with Mr. Wilconson - your respect and continued belief in our cause are all that matter now. I would never intrude.
Henry seemed oblivious to what we were doing in Consortium unless the information was relayed to him from another source.
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Re: Who is 12212042 blogger?

Post by Historian » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:34 am

The Wilconson Conundrum doesn't tell us directly what happened to Chard - what it does do is lend credence to Henry's sequence of events. It's clear that Malcolm Thomas' version of the events regarding John Wilconson is simply incorrect according Wilconson's digiconsciousness. I say that, as the only piece of verifiable conversation without agenda, Wilconson lends credence to Henry's sequence of events in the 2020s.

We can't verify Malcolm Thomas in the same way, unless Wilconson is a total fabrication by Henry. We don't know if the latter is even possible - and if it is, well, the argument that every character is actually MUVI-domianted by Henry becomes far more palatable, doesn't it? What if every character in Consortium is the King, and we're talking to him the whole time?

I mean, that's completely insane, but is it possible? Yes.

If that's true, Malcolm Thomas is the only sane one left.

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Post by Fallaner » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:55 am

Historian wrote:The Wilconson Conundrum doesn't tell us directly what happened to Chard - what it does do is lend credence to Henry's sequence of events. It's clear that Malcolm Thomas' version of the events regarding John Wilconson is simply incorrect according Wilconson's digiconsciousness. I say that, as the only piece of verifiable conversation without agenda, Wilconson lends credence to Henry's sequence of events in the 2020s.

We can't verify Malcolm Thomas in the same way, unless Wilconson is a total fabrication by Henry. We don't know if the latter is even possible - and if it is, well, the argument that every character is actually MUVI-domianted by Henry becomes far more palatable, doesn't it? What if every character in Consortium is the King, and we're talking to him the whole time?

I mean, that's completely insane, but is it possible? Yes.

If that's true, Malcolm Thomas is the only sane one left.
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Post by FordGT90Concept » Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:38 pm

Historian wrote:We don't know if the latter is even possible - and if it is, well, the argument that every character is actually MUVI-domianted by Henry becomes far more palatable, doesn't it? What if every character in Consortium is the King, and we're talking to him the whole time?
I think only Bishops, Knights, and Rooks have a MUVI. Case in point: if the traitor had a MUVI, King would have been able to tell us who the traitor was. Then again, if King was aware of what Kiril was going to do, he himself could have ordered the cockpit armor be upgraded. I think it's possible that King has a dual personality in the literal sense (help Bishop 6 and kill Bishop 6).


Wilconson died in 2027 before Henry was activated. It makes sense that Henry's only source of information would be what he could find about it on the Ex-Net. Thomas likely found the same documents and fed us tampered ones to paint Henry as evil in broad strokes. The thing is, liars don't necessarily lie all of the time. Wilconson tampering is definitely a strike against Thomas but we can't assume, from that one example, that everything Thomas says is a lie.


Edit: Everyone in the Consortium has a MUVI (recall Pawn 11 and Pawn 64 typing in midair a lot). Kiril does not. Pawns don't have a CMC but they obviously have something to wirelessly network their MUVI to...something (Zenlil? King?). I'm thinking MUVI -> Zenlil; CMC -> King.

Could they have kept Wilconson alive for over a year in order to even install a MC/MUVI in him? There's a information missing between Wilconson getting in the accident and us seeing him in the virtual trainer. Henry admits this in his message.
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Re: Who is 12212042 blogger?

Post by FordGT90Concept » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:35 pm

Kevin Chard has to still be alive in the Consortium timeline as of 2038 because he created the Chard Sonic Rifle and worked on the CEAR:
http://interdimensionalgaming.wikia.com ... 80%93_Pt.2

In the Consortium timeline, therefore, we have a conflict between the above article, and Malcolm Thomas's article (claims Chard died 2029):
http://interdimensionalgaming.wikia.com ... herworlder

Have we caught Malcolm Thomas in another lie?


Edit: There are three versions to the Sarah Valetta story too:
http://interdimensionalgaming.wikia.com ... ah_Valetta

If we attempt to reconcile the three into two, Bellhurst's story matches up with Henry's which adds credibility to Henry's side in the audio puzzle:
http://interdimensionalgaming.wikia.com ... le_Decoded
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