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Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

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Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by FordGT90Concept » Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:15 pm

It occurs when you choose sleep instead of going to the Virtual Trainer. I recorded a video of it but 700 MiB is a lot for my pokey internet to upload. I can if there is enough demand for it. Anywho, these are the letters that appear, their approximate order, and location. There can easily be mistakes (added the two hyphens because it was ignoring spaces):
--E
E     E

     R   M D

      A 

 O T    T I
N I    R S
    C
Any ideas?

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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by Fallaner » Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:34 am

Hmmmm...

How odd... Consortium seems to have a lot of letters and symbols that appear... But I don't think this is one that could go into the information console....

Hmmmm...
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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by Historian » Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:49 am

FordGT90Concept wrote:
--E
E     E

     R   M D

      A 

 O T    T I
N I    R S
    C
EEERAMDNOITCRTIS

Ran the whole thing through an Anagram detector - nothing used all the words, but they can be used to create:

- Creator Dieties
- A Secret In Time
- Determinator
- Deteriorate

Here is the full listing.

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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by FordGT90Concept » Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:07 pm

Hmm, well, if the opening sequence is any indicator, it can be missing letters too...
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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by Fallaner » Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:55 am

Actually, regarding sleep, I find something really freaking creepy.

While sleeping (If I remember right, I rarely end up sleeping) and when first getting into the Bishop's body, it looks like somebody is charging you on their hands and knees. It's just... creepy. They have no identifying features, they look faceless to me, and it feels like it should mean SOMETHING, but it doesn't seem to have much connection to anything.
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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by FordGT90Concept » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:02 pm

That's the intro before becoming Bishop 6.
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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by Historian » Sun Mar 20, 2016 6:36 pm

The two sets of figures are BUSes, but different from the Bishop's (they have helmet-filters where the Bishop does not) and the other are the terrorists from the roof in the gameplay video of The Tower.

If the third individual is Jenkins (who really doesn't fit the curly hair guy's description - he's ex-Canadian Military) then the intro sequence -may- be depicting his initial motorchip fitting. Still, why is he wearing a labcoat and jeans? Not, y'know, a Consortium Uniform?

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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by FordGT90Concept » Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:33 pm

Another box to check for it being Darsie. She's a scientist.

The B.U.S. helmet is a separate entity from the body. We know The Tower has a water filtration plant with lots of swimming bits. Perhaps we get filtration helmet too when heading to that part?
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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by Historian » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:39 am

But why does Darsie matter that much? Is she wearing that stuff in her concept art?

I just don't really find it likely that she's the one in the dream sequences. Maybe the Guardian of Knowledge?

I wish someone could rip the model so we had something to look at.

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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by Historian » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:39 am

But why does Darsie matter that much? Is she wearing that stuff in her concept art?

I just don't really find it likely that she's the one in the dream sequences. Maybe the Guardian of Knowledge?

I wish someone could rip the model so we had something to look at.

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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by MosquitoSenorito » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:11 am

If that's the vessel we see, it would be a fun sub-story of him fighting to regain control of the body.
Heck, it would be extra awesome if at one point he does regain the control and it goes like this:
- Game crashes with some obscure exception;
- When you restart it, you are at different point;
- King is glad to have you back;
- Everyone is commenting on you acting "not like yourself"

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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by Historian » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:54 pm

MosquitoSenorito wrote:If that's the vessel we see, it would be a fun sub-story of him fighting to regain control of the body.
Heck, it would be extra awesome if at one point he does regain the control and it goes like this:
- Game crashes with some obscure exception;
- When you restart it, you are at different point;
- King is glad to have you back;
- Everyone is commenting on you acting "not like yourself"
It'd be an interesting sort of 'Quantum Limbo' to find yourself in. Perhaps as part of the story (non-Gameplay based, a story hook like Pawn 7's murder) you get X-01'd, but rather than just get rebooted, you get shot into Limbo.

While there, you argue with Jenkins about the morality of jacking his mind. Maybe you make him hate you, or maybe you make him trust you. Like Wilconson, it's a very gray area. It also prevents K-1 from blocking our knowledge of him, and he can tell us about his girlfriend's death and the coup he prevented. Jenkins definitely wasn't a normal guy, even if he was a lesser-qualified Bishop.

Then you get jerked back into reality, and based on how you treated Jenkins your situation may change - since he had some semblance of control while you disconnected. Either he's heavily injured due to making him angry (unstable and fighting the motor chip) or wakes up peacefully (accepting your control for the time being).

It'd be interesting if we end up teaching Bishop 6, like us or hate us, to be the best Bishop he can be. In sequels that follow other Consortium members, it'd be interesting to see Six even for a short while, his personality shaped by your Bishop archetype and choices.

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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by FordGT90Concept » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:36 pm

Historian wrote:But why does Darsie matter that much? Is she wearing that stuff in her concept art?

I just don't really find it likely that she's the one in the dream sequences. Maybe the Guardian of Knowledge?

I wish someone could rip the model so we had something to look at.
Use Fraps or something to record the sleep sequence. You can get a pretty good look at the person then...even able to run mostly around them. Granted, the window is brief.

Consortium starts with a message about Darsie and ends knowing the primary goal of the Tower is to save Darsie. Until we've played The Tower, I don't think we'll know what makes her so important.

I haven't seen concept art of Darsie.
MosquitoSenorito wrote:If that's the vessel we see, it would be a fun sub-story of him fighting to regain control of the body.
Heck, it would be extra awesome if at one point he does regain the control and it goes like this:
- Game crashes with some obscure exception;
- When you restart it, you are at different point;
- King is glad to have you back;
- Everyone is commenting on you acting "not like yourself"
Heh, yeah, that would be a good way to enforce the policy that "sleep is bad." If you think about it, it actually makes a lot of sense for the Vessel to act that way during the sleep sequence. He's not cut out for being a Bishop at all so in the face of danger, he just cowers.
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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by duke9509 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:13 pm

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Darsie is on the left

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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by FordGT90Concept » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:35 pm

Thanks! Is there any concept art of Jenkins? Or a mirror on Zenlil that works? XD
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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by duke9509 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:30 am

Nope! ;)

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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by FordGT90Concept » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:18 am

Ooooo, you should totally add a mirror to Zenlil and when you look in it, you see the King chess-piece model. =D

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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by fanatictentacle » Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:10 am

So I thought I'll add my Ideas to this post:

I would say, that the person from the dream definitly is the same person, you see at the beginning of the game (during quantum limbo). I think it is supposed to be set in the Tower, hence the Terrorists. So my thought was: This must be Darsie. Would match, that a simple scientist of sorts would cover during a firefight.
At the start of the game (again quantum limbo) the message says:
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So I say the quantum limbo and the dream are matches, you see sort of a quantum preview of the actions at the tower.

So these are just my thoughts on the Topic, what do you think about this?
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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by FordGT90Concept » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:18 am

fanatictentacle wrote:So these are just my thoughts on the Topic, what do you think about this?
But what are the characters in the sleep sequence supposed to say (if anything)?
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Re: Trying to decipher a sleep sequence

Post by Historian » Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:27 pm

I guess the question becomes this - why does Darsie matter? She's just James' kid AFAIK.

It seems kind of counterintuitive that a singular human being would be the primary catalyst of all of this. Is it something she does? Maybe send the reactor into criticality?

Or is she actually 'special'?

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